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WAITING
FOR TOMMY: JASON LIEBIG
By Richard Johnston I'm
proud of Counter-X. Calling Warren Ellis for Counter-X was
my idea, and I received nothing but support from Bob Harras
and Mark Powers once I decided it's what I was doing. If you
weren't liking what Warren was writing at the time, you probably
weren't reading it. And although Warren had a disdain for
superheroes, he understood them, and how to make them relevant.
Counter-X had its problems, I'll admit, but look no further
than X-Man for the clearest vision of what I wanted to see
for those titles. Counter-X was an idea whose time had come,
and I think the X-Men group later took on that idea with books
like Allred's X-Force and Morrison's New X-Men. I'm sure I'll
get slapped for this, but THOSE could have been Counter-X
books... ;-)
And to
be really gushy, I'm proud to have worked with the people
I did. Bob Harras and Mark Powers first and foremost, but
there were so many others. Tim Townsend, Joe Harris, Whilce
Portacio, Jim Mahfood... Steven Grant, Richard Starkings,
Chris Lichtner (and too many other creators to mention), all
of editorial, really., and on and on.
Working
at Marvel was a gift to me, and I felt fortunate that I got
to spend a single day there, let alone four-and-a-half years.
I was proud to work on the X-Men, too. Byrne and Claremont
turned a little failing comic title into a phenomenon, and
a franchise. I got to ride that phenomenon, and it provided
for me the chance to work with people I idolized and the chance
to see new talent come up (like Lenil Yu and Jose Ladronn,
to name two.) I LOVED IT, and I'm so proud of my time there.
RICHARD:
Do you have any judgment on New Marvel today? Has anything
you feared come to fruition? And what might that hold for
the future?
JASON:
Judgement on New Marvel? I love the covers... and if I was
spending my money and time on comics, I'll bet I'd be enjoying
what Marvel is doing. But I don't buy them. My discretionary
income goes elsewhere. From what little I DO see and hear,
they certainly seem to be the kinds of books that I'd like.
If I were reading comics. I think dropping the comics code
was a great idea, and the fact that there were no negative
ramifications surprised me. So I think that's great. Opening
Marvel up to the kinds of creators they have is a great move.
It's nice to see that happening, and have happened.
As for
the Ultimates, I never was much for them. It is so Bill Jemas'
pet project. I'd seen re-doing Stan & Jack stories with Heroes
Reborn, and this just seemed like another crack at that. But
it sounds as if they're quite successful, so what do I know?
Clearly if the president has moderately good ideas, and puts
every resource of the company behind them, it can work. And
that's clearly what's happened. But is anybody out there suffering
for it? I dunno. I'd probably enjoy those books, too, IF I
were reading them. I just remember them supposedly being created
so that Marvel would have "new-reader-friendly" books. Is
that what they are? Somehow I doubt it, really. They appear
to just be good books for the relatively staid direct market.
As for what I feared? Well, before I was let go from
Marvel I insisted that all of these books and approaches that
we were taking were not going to "save" comics. I always thought
we needed to get kids. Yes, this IS obvious, but I was clear
that I wasn't interested in, or had the skills needed, to
get those kids, or to make those comics to get them. What
I feared then stands now: I don't think anyone up there has
the least idea of how to get new readers. That's too bad.
But for a 35 year-old comic fan, they're doing some cool stuff.
One comment
on ORIGIN (the "origin" of Wolverine). When this was first
proposed, I couldn't have been any LESS interested in it.
My response to ORIGIN was "Why?" I said that I would much
rather have seen the ORIGIN of the NEXT Wolverine; meaning,
I'd like to see some exciting NEW characters. Somehow it's
still not happening, at least as far as I know. Allred's X-Force
book, excluded, as I believe those are all nifty new characters
(can you tell I'm a fan of Mike's work?) Creating a NEW character
that was even half as exciting as Wolverine would have been
truly extraordinary. It hasn't happened. So you ultimately
have a lot of "looking back" at the characters that already
exist. A necessary part of moving Marvel forward, to be sure.
But so would creating lots of new characters.
RICHARD:
What are you up to now? Can you ever see a return for yourself
to the comics industry?
JASON:
These days I'm an actor in New York City. I also tend bar
when acting isn't enough to pay my rent, which it often isn't.
I occasionally take a crack at writing, which, and any of
the writers who worked for me can verify this, was never my
strong suit. But I manage to put pen to paper. Writing is
just damned hard work, and I respect writers a great deal.
Even the ones who, when I was working in comics, got off saying
I should be dead. But they were just being idiots.
As for
returning to the comic industry, I can't imagine I'd ever
return to the business. I still have a wealth of friends in
comics, and I still love the craft of it, but what would I
do if I went back? Edit Batman? First off, I couldn't GET
THAT job if I begged for it, and I don't think it'd be that
interesting to me, anyway, I've already worked on the X-Men,
so anything else would probably feel small. What I'm saying
is, I still love the business, but I loved high school too,
and I don't want to go back there.
But I'd
sweep floors before I'd go hungry, so never say never!
Jason
Liebig no longer works in comics. Rich Johnston writes Lying
In The Gutters apart from the next two weeks when he's
in South Africa!
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